20 August 2009

VIDEO INTERVIEWS WITH RED

''Natural Order is not up for debate, it exists independent of our thinking and is as physical a reality as gravity.'' 
- Lynette Fromme (Red)
 
''There is, around the corner of evolution—a new experience, awareness and perception beyond anything we have yet experienced—and this itself is so feared that it has been locked up. The death of an old thought is the completion of a long line of grandmother's ways, and hard for most to let go of.'' 
- Lynette Fromme (Red)

QUOTES FROM RED






















''There were many women around. We all had a relationship with each other that was very strong. And all of our minds kind of hooked up. We rejected the society. We rejected marriage because we didn't like what our parents had. We looked at our parents' marriages and we said "You know, if I'm going to say I pledge my life to you till death, then I'm not going to leave." We rejected paying taxes when we didn't know where those tax dollars were going. We wanted to know what is it being used for? I know lots of young people felt that way. They wanted to know what is this war for?''

''When the circumstances are right, everything becomes a dance. And then, there's this communication that happens on earth between the animals and the people. And when you're in the woods, when you're some place like the redwoods -- when you are in the presence of a thousand year old, or three thousand year old tree that's as big as a house, it puts you in your place. When it came to animals, he wanted to know "What are you and what do you do? He didn't say those words, but more or less, he looked at each animal as an interesting creature and he wanted to know how it lived and what it was here for. And everything has that purpose, that nice, circular balance of plant life, of animal life. We have a planet that needs all the help it can get and people are not number one, you know. ''

''I wanted a courtroom. I wanted to put my people in court and let them say what they did. Bugliosi, the district attorney on the Tate-LaBianca cases, had put out a book. There were a lot of falsehoods in that book and it was a distorted view of our purposes, helter skelter and all... wanting to start a race war - that's a joke. A race war's been coming for years and years. So for them to put it all on Manson is criminal. But the other people, the other races of people know. And all that I say, with regard to that, is I believe it's natural. I believe that it is natural to like yourself, to look to others that look like you. And it's good. Other races should not be looking to white people for images.'' 

''I have no respect for people who don't have respect for what gives them life. And that's earth. You know, earth first. That's Manson's first woman. ''

''He can get right up to you and affect you in a way that maybe you've never been affected before. Because he can scare the shit out of you, turn around, walk away, and turn back and be somebody else. And he can show you a way to become connected with birds and animals and trees and things like that. He shows you by his actions. He doesn't tell you. He doesn't preach it. He wasn't a preacher. He didn't teach us these things. He just lived them . And that was more than we had seen from anyone else. And as far as leaders go, I'll go with that, you know. He didn't ask me to call him God. We thought that was really funny. You think we'd be with somebody we had to call God?''

 ''People want evil. In order for there to be a good, there has to be evil.  People want it. I don't happen to need scary things chasing me around. I don't want my dreams full of that. I want to see what's here. I want to discover the country. I want to take a look at it.'' 

''.... it was a unanimous type of a decision. And it was... we didn't vote on it or anything. We had become one mind. And it wasn't Manson's mind . We had become another, something that goes beyond the individual, I don't know what to call it. ''

''And I will explain that this way. I picked up a pair of scissors in the ranch house and I'm thinking "I don't need these" so I put them down. I walk in circles. Finally, I pick up the scissors and leave. And I get down where the movie set is and one of the girls stepped out of a saloon. She said, "Thank you". It was not abnormal for us to understand and know each other's thoughts from a distance. Then we realized this is what human beings can do. All of us, you know. And we weren't sure we were worthy of it. And we had to deal with religion and you know, were we worthy, Religions teach otherwise. Well, why not? What else would God have us be but worthy? So then, to accept this and to go on, we saw so many things that I don't talk about them. ''

''He can dance. He likes to dance. And it comes from feeling. And if he touches you, then it spreads. And then, people start behaving differently . And they become more, I guess, just poised. ''

''I think it's coming back around again. I think kids are dissatisfied and they're... they all, kids are always dissatisfied, but I think that they're coming back to natural things again, It's hard because half of it's been taken away from you already. Kids tell me all the time, "Well, you know, it may not be here by the time I'm an adult" They say, "I don't know if I'm gonna have children or not." We're a continuum. As human beings, we' re supposed to see into the future. When you hear those Indians down in Brazil talking about their kids and their grandkids, it's warming. I want them to win. I don't want them to be slaughtered. I want them to win. ''

''I was sitting behind lots and lots of people when Charlie walked into the courtroom and he was asking the judge to be able to retain his voice. He wanted to defend himself and not have someone else up there talking for him who didn't know him. And the people were wanting to see what he was about, what he had to say. They were on the edge of the seats, and the reporters were writing down things and suddenly, very suddenly, the judge banged the gavel and he said, "This is my courtroom, Mr. Manson, and I make the rules here." And it was obviously an attempt to gain back the attention of the people 'cause everybody jumped. Everybody felt like they had been reprimanded . And that's supposed to be the "big dad" up there. I'll give him that respect if he gives my land and water and air that respect. I mean, there should be judges, like Solomon, wise people to be in the middle of disputes. But don't take my attention and then just point me toward money and tell me that's the only thing that's right. ''

''I mean, when people kill, they have to be willing to be killed. And the women involved in this, and the men at the time, they were. They were. So whatever they say about Charlie, it can be a reaction to something. I don't know. They are under much more pressure than I have ever been. ''

''I just know that there are a lot of young people who want to follow him, so they follow what they read in the books. It's not right. We didn't take heroin. No way. You won't get me to touch that. Or Cocaine. And I've had to write letters to young people saying we didn't do that because they wrote me and they tell me, "Yeah, it's cool. I take these drugs and all. . . " 

''How could you let an elephant be extinct? How could we allow elephants to be taken off the earth? We can't do that. ''

''How can the social system be improved? It's a crime to smoke marijuana, a plant, but poisoning millions of people through toxic wastes is business as usual. How much will you give for the lives of your children's children, which is your self. How much are people willing to give up for air, earth, water, animals, and the coming generations? I think the answer to that is pretty clear.'' 

''Almost everything you eat or drink has water in it. No matter where it's from, most of it's polluted. Most of it's got a lot of chemicals that we have to stop producing, It's a simple thing. We don't transfer it. We don't move the poisons somewhere else. We stop producing them. We use our brains. ''

''I want clean water. I want water I could take a newborn baby down to and... you're not interested in air and water and you're gonna need it! And as it disappears from the earth, if you don't do anything about it... if you do not participate in doing whatever you can to protect your mother, your nurturer that keeps you alive, you don't get life. ''

''Rattlesnakes eat the animals that reproduce in quantity. They all have a purpose, so we need them. Since we don't know or understand the overall purpose of so many animals, it's to our advantage to let them enlighten us. Snakes serve to keep people from being unaware oafs (in the wild). If not for the need to look out for dangers around us we'd all be blundering plundering pigs. If animals didn't have a survival instinct, many more would be food to a few who'd get fat, flounder and die. End of story. Finito. No more life. Women holler and bitch to the contrary but we all live in a matriarchy and have for many many years. Women's needs have been the reason for work, war, religion and death. When in balance with the needs of the soul or patriarch (father, God, spirit, universe) this works well because the women's role has always been to make sure the young survive. When out of balance it destroys life.''

18 August 2009

IN DEFENSE OF CHARLES MANSON: ECCE HOMO


 "Whatever you do is up to you and it's the same thing with anyone in my family, and my family is a white human being, because my family is of the white family... We have to find ourselves first, God second, and kind, k-i-n-d, come next. And that is all I was doing. I was working on cleaning up my house, something Nixon should have been doing. He should have been on the side of the road picking up his children. But he wasn't. He was in the White House sending them off to war."
- Charles Manson


Sound somewhat Third Position? That excerpt from Manson's trial testimony should be enough to convince anyone to take another look at the underlying philosophy behind the "family"; this message of putting the house in order is precisely the goal of much of the Racialist movement today, and Manson was living in the late Sixties. It was because he was doing exactly this that the left-wingers, excepting a revolutio,nary cast in their own mold, abandoned him, and Manson was left behind to be the "mean man in can"; a part he plays adeptly. It's a role everyone learns as a child when taught the limits of acceptable behavior. A role Manson understands well, and plays knowingly. It's a part pounded home early by twelve years in reform school, followed by another seven "for a thirty-seven dollar check." Having been brought up in prisons, Manson is the consummate outsider. He saw the contradictions between what the system practiced and what was being preached, and he connected with a generation in which kids were thrown away on an unprecedented scale. Thus, the Manson family embarked on an exploration of White tribal existence, albeit one tainted by the time period. 

Manson needn't be cast as Fuhrer, whetever the appellation denotes hero and villain, but he must be looked to as a visionary. His words are important, and there is much to be learned from his exemple; abandoned by the Left, he was ignored by those in whom he should have found natural allies, until James Manson discovered that he was much more than media would have the public believe. The Manson case is reflective of the larger ongoing debates over races and guns. The system tried to set Manson up as an example not to follow, but now more and more people are following his course - perhaps without realizeing just Manson was doing out in the desert. People are waking up to the truths he understood and questioning the fundamental assumptions around which this society is based, particularly in light of the course taken in the years since Manson's sentencing. Currently, the same tactics are being used to discredit racialists, especially in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing. However, moving beyond the scare tactics of the ideological war, it is becoming more and more evident that the system is in exactly the fix Manson predicted would come to pass: "Faces off- in 21 years I never met no one in the press who wanted to know the truth beyond words. our vocabulary starts in prison. new words begin in the underworld - your world out there is dying and it's smaller than my world in here." A fundemental lesson in Political Science deals with the legitimacy of a particular form of government, and excessive reliance on coercive measures to keep the regime in power indicates a lack of legitimacy: "California has the third-largest penal system in the world, following China and the United States as a whole: 125,842 prisoners at the last official count." (Davis) The example of California may well be a reflection of the future trends in U.S. as a whole. How much longer could such a system last in which so many are being educated in the same truths evident to Manson? Many are waking up to them in the schools: a less extreme institution of social coersion, certainly, but one which is becoming increasingly alienating. The ratio of the disenfranchised to those who believe in the system is growing daily; the proof is in the headlines rather than in advertisements, and the truth gets uglier daily. Acknowledgement of system failures is no longer confined to the so-called "extremes". Manson's vision is being vindicated : living in yesterday's prisons gave him a clear-sighted vision of the destiny coming down presently. He wanted out of that society, and a few will blame him now: the writing on the prison walls is visible to much of America. Most "truths" being sold in the media are no longer proving satisfactory. Consistently it is said that racists or murderers or soldiers dehumanize their "victims", but how are these people dealt with? they are dehumanized in the press. Enemies are portrayed as insane, as stupid, and ridiculed. It camouflages their message behind a wall of "correctness" as well as serving to dehumanize. whether this is hypocrisy or human nature matters little: It is successful tactic. In Siege, James Manson recounts the fact that the Manson folk and he expected the worst from each other, only to find that they were in much the same position. This is the result of the success of the capitalist system in co-opting dissent and keeping the outsiders atomized and distrustful of one another. This is done in the name of "objective truth", the formula for which the "legitimate" media enjoys a supposed monopoly. But there will never be a monopoly on truth, nor two sides to every story. 

There are a myriad of ways to interpret any one or any event, and this is all but ignored by a media hell-bent on maintaining the status quo. With the sword of media firepower trained on Manson, how could the lies and negative images have no effect? Unfortuately, such tactics work on those in a position to learn from him and, possibly, help him. A hard look at the facts in the Manson case will reveal the extent of the power of hearsay when it has the blacking of the system. The same is true of the treatment of David Lane and any number of others. If they want you, they'll get you, and they'll ignore their own laws to do it. No blood is on Charlie's hands, but he is an icon of evil trotted out on occasion - he ranks in infamy with the likes of Bundy, Speck, or any other number of ghouls. It's quite likely he's more infamous, even, than these men who did have blood on their hands. How could this have happened when all of the more damning evidence is hearsay - testimony of those trying to save their own asses or spurious accusations made by attorneys or authors out to make money? Prosecutor Vince Bugliosi mentions thirty-five killing linked to the Manson family , but offers no concrete proof. Nor did Ed Sanders, who is forced to omit baseless accusations against the Process Church from the second edition of The Family. Still, Sanders insists he will be vindicated, that all of the rumors he printed were true, and that proof of this is forthcoming. Bugliosi states: "It's become like some Kennedy-Assassination thing... People with theories about the murders and Manson." Funny that he is working on a book about the assassination, as well as a new edition of his best-seller Helter Skelter. The rumor mill is big business. However, if all of the lies and hearsay were true, his example is still one to follow. First, the targets were important, and the case still makes headlines. Celibrities make better targets than street black people and other rabble. Few care that such people are out of the way save the relatives and friends of the victims. The system can replace any number of drones. There is still hysteria in Hollywood over the Tate murders. The August 1995 issue of Spy Magazine has a list of quotes from celibrities who were "supposed to have been there" the night of the Tate murders. Second, should all come crashing down tomorrow, on whom can you depend? Will friends of yours sell you down the river in an attempt to escape the inevitable crucifixion in public opinion? Or will all stick to their guns regardless? chances are good that seemingly loyal comrades will sell you out fro christ, mom, and apple pie- anything to get right with people whom they can never be reconciled. Susan Atkins broke first, and what did she get for it? Two books and Jesus, but no freedom and no respect - from herself or others. The public will always hold her in contempt as will those she sold out. Her situation is worse than that of Manson, who has self-respect. He hasn't broken, and he has become a symbol of defiance because of that. A symbol which resonates with outsiders in unprecedented numbers: outsiders the system would like to remain atomized and without vision. Many who identify with Manson may well move on to read Resistance and like publications, especially now that the Universal Order is receiving the attention that it deserves. But the media campaign of cowerdice, stupidity, and lies is ongoing and largely successful, even among people who profess to have no faith in the mainstream media or the system. The anti-Manson sentiment is so strong that people who've never even met the man, but have simply identified or agreed with statements he has made are being forced to backpedal and distance themselves from him. These individuals can no longer suck energy from Manson and are lost: as lost as the Geraldo's who try to pick fights with him to make a name for themselves; a lost as the Axl Roses's and the Genesis P-Orridge's who use his image and then "explain" or "clarify" their intentions. Siding with Charley to any extent is equivalent to Holocaust revisionism in the eyes of the public. The extend of the persecution is such that the system stooges won't even let Manson sign his name: "They say that signing my name is causing too much trouble. It's making too much money." While Manson will not see any of this money he is supposedly generating, O.J. Simpson, likely a man with blood on his hands, is encouraged to sign autographs. He is encouraged to write books and wear expensive suits to court. the only truth to be gleaned from comparison of the two trials is that money talks, regardless of the situation- regardless of blood. Manson was aware of the fact that his kind had already sold their souls, and sold them cheap. That he wears no political badges shouldn't so obscure his position that like-minded folk deem him unworthy of support or fail to glean from him the wisdom that is his to impart. Such means victory for the system to which we are all opposed, and which has declare war on us all alike. Such a potent ally cannot be discounted, but deserves any help which can be offered.

12 August 2009

QUOTES FROM CHARLES MANSON

''Mr. and Mrs. America - you are wrong. I am not the King of the Jews nor am I a hippie cult leader. I am what you have made of me and the mad dog devil killer fiend leper is a reflection of your society. . . Whatever the outcome of this madness that you call a fair trial or Christian justice, you can know this: In my mind's eye my thoughts light fires in your cities.''
- Charles Manson, 1971

''You eat meat and you kill things that are better than you are, and then you say how bad, and even killers, your children are. You made your children what they are....''
- Charles Manson, 1971

''If I showed them that I would do anything for my brother--including giving my life for my brother on the battlefield--and then they pick up their banner, and they go off and do what they do, that is not my responsibility. I don't tell people what to do .''
- Charles Manson, 1971

''These children that come at you with knives. they are your children. You taught them. I didn't teach them. I just tried to help them stand up. . . .''
- Charles Manson, 1971

''Where does the garbage go? As we have tins and garbage alongside the road, and oil slicks in the water, so you have people, and I am one of your garbage people.''
- Charles Manson, 1971

''A baby is born into this world in a state of fear. Total paranoia and awareness. He sees the world with eyes not used yet. As he grows up, his parents lay all this stuff on him. They tell him, when they should be letting him tell them. Let the children lead you.''
- Charles Manson


''All of the judgments and the blame that is pushed off on me will be reflected back in the fires of the Holy War that call crime....I did invoke a balance for life on Earth. From behind the time locks of courtrooms and from the worlds of darkness, I did let loose devils and demons with the power of scorpions to torment. I did unseal seven seals and seven jars in accord with the judgments placed upon me...You've drugged me for years, dragging me up and down prison hallways, laying my head on every chopping block you've got, chained me, burnt me, but you cannot defeat me...In all that was said about me, it was not me saying it, and if you see a false prophet, it is only a reflection of your own judgments."
- Charles Manson, 1986

''You can try to kill me a million times more but you cannot kill soul. Truth was, is, and will always be. You have beaten me, broken my neck, knocked my teeth out. You've drugged me for years, dragging me up and down prison hallways, laying my head on every chopping block you've got in this state, chained me, burnt me, but you cannot defeat me. All you can do is destroy yourselves with your own judgments. ''
- Charles Manson, 1986

''What I'd like for you to do in your own minds personally, everybody that has a personal mind of their own, could possibly consider that the longer that you let this conviction stand, and this little Helter Skelter scheme of the District Attorney to give his particular reality over into the play, that's going to be the reality that they're perpetuating. That's not the reality that I'm perpetuating. I'm not saying that I wasn't involved. I'm saying that I did not break man's law nor did I break God's law. Consider that in the judgments that you have for yourselves. Good day. Thank you.''
- Charles Manson, 1987

''Note for the record. In the all that was said about me, it was not me saying it, and if you see a false prophet, it is only a reflection of your judgments, for in truth, it is motions, not words, that speak for the Manson family. We each have our own worlds and judgments. I have no judgments outside of what you all have set for yourselves. I'm content wherever I am. Whatever you do or say does not touch my inner circle. I have peace within myself. Peace of mind.''
- Charles Manson, 1986

09 August 2009

CHARLES MANSON: THE LAST PHILOSOPHER STANDING

(Associated Content) by Robert Mann

Reading through The Stranger, The Bald Soprano, and of course Sartre in college, I could never understand how existential writers subscribed to so many Anglo-European niceties. Some even used their reputations and signatures to support the moral rightness of certain universal causes.


Though the beneficial hindsight of history is now on our side, there is a disingenuous element to declaring independence from God then subscribing so closely to a Judeo-Christian culture and a sense of morality.

Nietzsche brought focus to the various modernist philosophies, not by declaring that God is dead, but by presenting the √úbermensch or Superman. Divorce from God was only part of the postmodernist experience - living beyond any external moral bounds and answering only to edicts of the individual ego marked the full potential of modern man. Religion and moral codes were the realm of lesser men without the strength to aspire. Though Nietzsche's words have reverberated for generations, the final decade of his life was lived humbly in severe mental illness under the care of his mother and sister.

If there have been any incarnations of the √úbermensch down through the history of time, Charles Manson is surely one of them. The Internet is chock full of Manson's 1988 interview with Geraldo Rivera, which surely culminated with the following statement by Manson: "I don't break laws, I make laws. I'm the Lawmaker." The horrific murders that Manson oversaw and this reflective statement were a two-fold "shot heard round the world" for modern philosophy. First, Nietzsche's Superman took a human form. Second, postmodernism was transferred from the intelligentsia to the common man.

While I appreciate my college studies of modern philosophy from the standpoint of art and evolution of thought, there was always suspicion for the divide between thinking and living. No, it is not necessary to live out our every thought, but putting forth a paradigm for existence comes with certain expectations. If a definition of life cannot be adopted by its primary advocates, perhaps it should be re-classified as something less serious or at least less real.

These words are by no means meant to cast aspersion on the genius or abilities of the writers mentioned. The poetry of their writing and thought holds an austere beauty for any reader. It is the fruition of their cumulative work that invites questions of authenticity and horror. Whether existentialist, postmodernist, secular humanist, or some related title, for the true believer, Charles Manson is the chosen one.