Forever is forever and anyone who wants to see into and put their mind and thoughts into forever can. You see a rock and understand the rock is not forever. You can see into the sky and all its stars and say that is forever. Cars, money, things are moving. The pillars or God's word symbols that thought travels on and with thoughts in the will of God is forever the mind. Something true is true forever even if we don't know what it is. We go through life and come to thoughts in sky's mind that are and have always been. Soul is forever. Life and death are games. Forever is no game. If you give your words into forever and sell them out by dropping them for reasons you justify then your mind and heart is not in forever. Your life keeps on but when it ends and you must face your own knowing you know, and that won't let your soul into itself. The wheels of thought are held in forever. Your mind's brains can become aware of them and you can come in and out of the temple of forever. It's not a judge. Our own thoughts do that. We alone effect our self. There is no one, no us, no we, unless we make it, redeem it, and come back in grace with truth. As I say, I don't judge it, it just is in nothing as nothing is forever as nothing is soul. The beyond, the Ansome. But one lie is like a wall. Like a space movie one lie and a force field goes up and forever and truth goes on and on without you. A real witch knows no one can catch her lying. No one but herself. Everything is perfection. Monks who are in forever say no women can hold points of view in forever because they have no soul, that their fear turns them to lie and hide from the real. I've just drove up on forever and feel it started with me so I'm just here. (Swastika)
Can be self centered, and survive anywhere, drop her in the desert where there’s nothing.
She knows where there’s water, and can forage for food in the meanest desert… Feed me, make me shoes, and clothes.
Knows roots, herbs. She’s a part of wildlife itself.
I’ve seen her deliver her own baby, put it on her back, climb a mountain with the baby hanging on her back, keep it warm, make fire where there was no matches, where there was no store… Feed me, make me shoes and rub my feet at the same time.
At the same time three counties had their cops looking for us with air spotters, jeep patrols and never bitch, cry..
she can run with the coyotes, fly with the owls, forage with the wolves and lay with the snakes.
She’s a part of the Earth and the trees. She is a tree. And feed me and do everything.
I only do what she can’t do.
Everything else she has in hand and she knows what will happen if she don’t.
The Kindred of the Kibbo Kift was a camping, hiking and handicraft group with ambitions to bring world peace. It was the first of three movements in England associated with the charismatic artist and writer John Hargrave (1894–1982). The Kindred was founded in 1920. Some members continued into Hargrave's Green Shirt Movement for Social Credit, which was established in 1931–32, and which became in 1935 the Social Credit Party of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Hargrave claimed all three organisations to be part of one mission, telling his followers after the last title-change: 'We are the Green Shirts – indeed we are the Kindred – calling ourselves the Social Credit Party of Great Britain officially, but knowing full well who and what we are. "Whelm on me ye Resurrected Men!" – I give you that outcry of the Kin in 1927.'
The mission was the belief that Kibbo Kift training would produce a core of healthy and creative individuals through whom the human race would evolve into a society without war, poverty and wasted lives. The Kibbo Kift held that individual character strengthened by mental discipline was the key to the future, not mass movements based on groups defined by class, race or nation states.
Origins
The Kindred was formed at a meeting held on 18 August 1920 at the offices of the Charity Organisation Society. Besides Hargrave, the movers were Mrs Emmeline Pethick-Lawrence, a former suffragette and Theosophist-inclined pacifist; and Dr C. K. Cullen, socialist-inclined medical officer in East London and a youth leader at the Camelot Youth Club in Poplar. All three shared a broad vision of creating a new model for character–building youth groups, a progressive, co-educational and non-militaristic alternative to The Boy Scouts Association. However, there were differences. In the early years of the Kibbo Kift, there were ideological and personal wranglings over the new organisation, from which Hargrave emerged in 1924 as the 'Head Man'.
Hargrave (aka 'White Fox'), artist, author and The Boy Scouts Association's Commissioner for Woodcraft and Camping, had become disenchanted with the increasingly militaristic tendency in The Boy Scouts Association after World War I. Soon after the formation of the Kindred, Hargrave was expelled from The Boy Scouts Association by its chief, Robert Baden-Powell. According to Hargrave, Baden-Powell acted with extreme reluctance and only after some wealthy backers had threatened to withdraw funding from The Boy Scouts Association unless he was expelled.
The Kibbo Kift did indeed offer an alternative to The Boy Scouts Association: it was open to both sexes and all ages. The ideas of world peace and the regeneration of urban man through the open-air life replaced the nationalism and militarism Hargrave had detested in the post-Boy Scouts Association. In its mixture of woodcraft, ritual and handicraft, it had much in common with the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry and the British Camp Fire Girls , which Hargrave knew through his wife, Ruth Clark, who led a Camp Fire Girls group at the Garden School run by the Theosophical Educational Trust in St John's Wood. The school moved in 1920 to Ballinger Grange in Buckinghamshire where it became something of a Kibbo Kift centre.
The words Kibbo Kift come from a Cheshire dialect term used to indicate 'proof of great strength', specifically lifting a heavy bag of grain (about 142 kg, or 325 lb) onto one's shoulders.) The group's initials have led some to assume a relationship to the Ku Klux Klan but this has no basis in fact (and Hargrave took great pains to correct this misapprehension in the popular press during the group's lifetime). Kibbo Kift had interests in regional geography and world culture that coexisted with passionate ideas about national identity. The group has been claimed to be 'the only genuine English national movement of modern times'.
In 1920 Hargrave explained what the distinctive words meant:
Kibbo Kift is an old English expression meaning literally proof of great strength – or The Strong. So today, in the woodcraft camp we speak of:
KIBBO KIFT – meaning the Idea and Ideal of the Great Outdoor Trail and Open Air Education
THE KIBBO KIFT – meaning the Woodcraft Kindred, or the people who follow the great Woodcraft Trail
TO BE KIBBO KIFT – meaning to be a good camper and woodcrafter, to be a clean, strong, upright man (woman or child).
The movement drew heavily on the woodcraft ideas of naturalist Ernest Thompson Seton (also a key part of the early Scout Movement). Hargrave also imported into the movement his fondness for 'symbology', art and ritual – drawing his ideas on art from Jane Ellen Harrison, and on education from G.Stanley Hall's then fashionable theory of 'recapitulation'. Kibbo Kift was also strongly influenced by ideas about myth and religion from James Frazer's popular anthropological study, The Golden Bough.
In the second half of the 1920s the Kindred's educational ideas tended to be swamped by Hargrave's enthusiasm for the economic theory of Social Credit, but the faith in ritual and ceremony remained strong. According to Hargrave in 1924: 'The Ceremonial System of the Kibbo Kift with all its Colour and Symbolism, has been, is, and must always remain vital to the expression of our ideals and to our method of propaganda. Other movements can go on with their everlasting, excessively dull and too often fruitless meetings, manifestos, reports and resolutions. They are not for us.Inspiration for the more concealed of Kibbo Kift rituals came from a range of hermetic sources including the writings of Aleister Crowley.
Activities
Those who joined the Kibbo Kift had to sign up to a lengthy covenant, which set out some great Utopian ideals. In many aspects it resembled American President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points, a blueprint for world peace at the close of the Great War. The establishment of a League of Nations Union as well as H. G. Wells more far-reaching call for a World State were key touchstones for Kibbo Kift policies. A shorter, more personal, 'Declaration' abbreviated the covenant and was used especially for younger members:
I wish to be Kibbo Kift and to
1Camp out and keep fit
2Help others
3Learn how to make things
4Work for world peace and brotherhood
Kinsmen and women were organised into 'Things' (districts), Clans (groups), Tribes (groups with children, such as scout patrols or classes from a school) and Lodges (groups of adults). There was also room for 'Lone Kinsmen', who kept up with the movement through newsletters: The Mark (1922–23), The Nomad (1923–25), and Broadsheet (1925–38). Each individual took a 'woodcraft name': thus Emmeline Pethick-Lawrence was 'Lotosa' (Look to the Stars'). The correct costume had to be hand-made by each individual or 'rooftree' (family group), according to designs laid down by Hargrave. The everyday 'habit' of Saxon hood, jerkin, shorts and long cloak must have seemed outlandish in the English countryside of the early 1920s. The popular press also drew attention to the group's skimpy exercise costumes; these included brassiere-type tops for women and gee-strings or breech-clouts for men. By the late 1920s the movement's ceremonial occasions required brilliantly coloured surcoats or silk-embroidered robes, worn by the various office-holders such as the Tallykeeper, Campswarden, Ritesmaster and Gleeman. Hargrave himself was 'Head Man'.
Groups devised their own local activities, such as mumming plays, weekend camps, weekly meetings and excursions to museums. All groups came together for the annual Althings (assemblies), Spring hikes and Autumn Gleemotes (festivals). The Kibbo Kift's central activities, hiking and camping, were elevated to the level of a spiritual exercise: all marked by colourful and impressive ritual, couched in language reminiscent of Norse Sagas and rich in Saxon archaisms. Hikes could be turned into 'pilgrimages', as for example in 1924 when the Kibbo Kift made a pilgrimage to Piltdown in Sussex, in homage to 'Dawn Man', a supposed early humanoid whose skull had recently been unearthed (later found to be a hoax). At the site the Kindred performed a ceremony, complete with fire rituals, psalm singing, ritual chanting and a plaster cast replica of the skull. Kinsmen were not only required to make their own lightweight, one-man hiking tents (the first seen in England) but to decorate them with vivid, symbolic designs of their own devising. The movement included several talented art and craft teachers, including Kathleen Milnes ('Blue Falcon'), Winifred Tuckfield ('Iarmailteach'), a co-founder of the Knox Guild of Design and Crafts, and C.W. Paul Jones ('Old Mole'). Consequently, the robes, regalia, tents, totems and artefacts can display an extremely high standard of craftsmanship. Hargrave designed most of the movement's official visual symbols, including the striking banners and the 'sigils' (symbols) which were made into embroidered badges by Ruth Clark for the coloured surcoats of mandated officials. His designs for Kibbo Kift banners from the late 1920s are stronger and more graphic, probably a consequence of his work as a freelance advertising artist and copywriter, principally for Lever Brothers and Carlton Studios. The direct influence of commercial designers such as Edward McKnight Kauffer and Ashley Havinden is evident in Hargrave's style.
Members
The Kibbo Kift were never more than a few hundred strong at any one time but over a thousand members signed a covenant in total. Kinsmen and Kinswomen included former suffragettes Emmeline Pethick-Lawrence, Mary Neal and May Billinghurst, Evelyn Sharp (her husband, the journalist Henry Nevinson, was a passive supporter), the photographer Angus McBean, Ruth Clark, the mountaineer Mabel Barker (Patrick Geddes' god-daughter, through whom the Kindred became involved in Regional Survey work), the explorer Millican Dalton, Roland Berrill – later a founder of Mensa, and Rolf Gardiner – a folk-dance revivalist. Many teachers and art teachers were attracted by the movement's educational aspirations. Kibbo-Kift friendly schools included Matlock Modern School in Derbyshire and the King Alfred School in North London. A major Kibbo Kift Educational Exhibition was held at Whitechapel Gallery in 1929.
The 'Advisory Committee' named on the Kindred's stationery did little more than lend their names to the organisation: they included Havelock Ellis, Maurice Maeterlinck, the Bengali poet Rabindranath Tagore, H. G. Wells and Professor Julian Huxley. Patrick Geddes was the exception in taking a more active interest in the group. D. H. Lawrence followed the progress of the Kindred via the letters of Rolf Gardiner, and it has been suggested that Mellors in Lady Chatterley's Lover is based on an archetypal Kinsman.
T. E. Lawrence is also said to have allowed Kinsmen to camp on his land. Emmeline Pethick-Lawrence and Rolf Gardiner tried to link the Kindred with European youth groups (arranging for Hargrave's woodcraft books to be translated and published in Germany in the early 1920s). Although international Kibbo Kift groups appeared sporadically (the White Fang Tribe in Russia, for example) the only lasting European group was in Belgium, the Lawerce Lodge in Antwerp.
Changes
The growth of the Kibbo Kift had setbacks. In 1924, the South London co-operative lodges seceded from the movement. This was the culmination of a growing dissatisfaction with Hargrave's top-down decision-making structure and his tendency to make outlandish public claims for the organisation that deviated from the covenant and risked ridicule. in June 1924, a group of 32 signatories produced a circular leaflet stating 'That the administration of Kibbo Kift during recent months has been profoundly unsatisfactory'. At the 1924 Althing, Dr. Cullen, Gordon Ellis, and Joseph Reeves from the Royal Arsenal Cooperative Society, which had supported the Kindred financially, led the formal walk out. One of the departing members, Leslie Paul, formed The Woodcraft Folk, which outlived its parent organisation and still exists as of 2024.
In 1924, Hargrave was introduced to the theory of social credit. The theory was first put forward by C. H. Douglas, as early as the First World War. It was taken up by The New Age magazine which, under the radical leadership of A. R. Orage, enjoyed an influence out of proportion to its circulation. In the second half of the 1920s, Hargrave became progressively more preoccupied with social credit, seeing the Kindred as the megaphone, through which these esoteric ideas could reach the general public. By 1931, the Kibbo Kift was well on the way towards becoming a political movement with a single-minded mission: focussing on the state of the British nation and spreading social credit ideas among the unemployed ('surplus labour' in Hargrave's terms) in Britain's industrial cities. Again, the movement was split from top to bottom, but by 1932, the transformation was complete, and Kibbo Kift was no more. The Anglo-Saxon costume, camping, hiking and woodcraft were replaced by military uniform, marching and propagandising. The name was changed to the Green Shirt Movement for Social Credit and later to the Social Credit Party of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. As the Green Shirts, the Social Credit Party played a role in the political street culture of the 1930s: marching, meeting and often clashing with the Black Shirts and the Red Shirts. The Public Order Act 1936, which banned the wearing of uniforms by political groups, was a great setback for a movement that relied on agit-prop, but it was World War II that provided the deathblow. The organization was wound up in 1951.
Legacy
In 1976 The Kibbo Kift a rock musical, was put on at the Traverse Theatre for the Edinburgh Festival ( The musical, created by Judge Smith and Maxwell Hutchinson, transferred to Sheffield's Crucible Theatre, where, produced by Mel Smith, it played to great acclaim. This flurry of interest led to the formation of the Kibbo Kift Foundation, dedicated to preserving the documentary and material archive of the movement. The surviving artefacts, costume and regalia were lent to the National Trust Museum of Childhood at Sudbury Hall in Derbyshire, but in 1982 they were deposited with the Museum of London. The documentary archive went first to the University of Cardiff and then the British Library of Political and Economic Science. In 2015 over 300 items from the Museum of London's collection were made accessible online through the museum's website. The collection features strongly in Designing Utopia: John Hargrave and the Kibbo Kift by Cathy Ross and Oliver Bennett, published by the museum in 2015.
An exhibition, "Intellectual Barbarians: The Kibbo Kift Kindred", exploring the group's artistic output, ran at Whitechapel Gallery, London from October 2015 to March 2016, co-curated by Annebella Pollen and Nayia Yiakoumaki. The exhibition showcased original garments, sculptures, furniture, paintings, photographs and ephemera from public and private collections, and was accompanied by a series of public events. The exhibition coincided with the first full-length book to examine the organisation's visual style and occult beliefs. Featuring over a hundred images,
The Kindred of the Kibbo Kift: Intellectual Barbarians, written by Annebella Pollen, designed by Roland Brauchli, and published by Donlon Books, won a Most Beautiful Swiss Books award in 2015.
A new generation of creative practitioners have found inspiration in Kibbo Kift. Artists and designers including Olivia Plender, Steven Claydon and Liam Hodges, as well as novelists Matthew De Abaitua, Kate Atkinson and musicians (Ganser), have used Kibbo Kift ideas and imagery in their work.
"You're dealing with one mind. But the people that are running the mind that you're dealing with, they don't even know what the mind is. They think they got a mind. Nobody's got a mind. The mind has everybody. But everybody wants to think that they've really got something going. So they play all these different little political games. I'm interested in my life, the order that runs in my atmosphere and my world, the one I know. I can't know what anybody else knows, All I can know is what I know..."
"I see no way you can touch the women of the Family. She's as vast as the universe & the world & all his colors. I took her & showed her the Earth Balance & she picked it up beyond words. There is no doubt in her mind. I seen her deliver her own babies and put babies on her back & walk acrost the desert in heat without water & 2/3 dead, smile with an endless love for her own. I could spend years explaining her but only she understands my words, motions and my ways."
One of the women that lived with Manson at Spahn Ranch once told me about the music they listened to, how only certain artitsts were accepted based on deep resonance with the music aligning with the groups senses and ideals. The conversation was sparked when she noticed my CD, proclaiming "Incredible String Band!" her face filled with joy in remembering. Everyone associates the group with the Beatles who were very popular with young people then, as for Manson, his taste lied outside the realm of rock 'n' roll as he favored musicians such as Hank Williams, Frankie Lane, Lefty Frizzell and Bing Crosby. Bands that were respected at the ranch as being aligned with the group included the Doors, the Moody Blues, Donovan and Incredible String Band. Here I present to you "October Song", one of their best with extraordinary lyrics that evoke the season.
Charles Manson and Spahn Ranch Raven that Manson called Devil, Manson is wearing his embroidered vest and has signed the photo "Hobo + Wife" you can read about the raven and more in Lynette Fromme's book 'Reflexion'.
"I have a raven, in a market basket. And I raise this little baby raven as I'm building the buggy, and everywhere I go with the buggy, the raven flies right over the top of it. I've got it all camouflaged down, no one can see it, and I live in the shadows in the bushes with it, up and down the old mule roads and stage-coach roads."
The game is coming to an end, and you laugh and talk among your friends,
for me there is no romancing, no beginning again,
'cause I'll never stop remembering my forgotten dream, forgotten dream.
Charles Manson
'Now Is The Time'
1960's
...Everyone says crazy fool, your always gazing at the night, with my arms around a tree, loving life with all my might...
Charles Manson
‘my world’
1960’s
When I was a deer in the forest, I saw a man as God, and thats your rightful order. I came to you with all the love in my heart, for I was for you, and you slaughtered me.
Charles Manson
1968
...Everything has been here for you, it’s all been at your hand, but don’t try to build a new world, just learn to live on the land...
Charles Manson
‘Give Your Love To Be Free’
1968
...Stop killing all of the wildlife, everyone let your kids go free, just open you eyes Mister, you can see that you can see...
...Soon we’ll move California, an earthquake will surely come, Valley of Death and you’ll find us, their ain’t nowhere else to run...
Charles Manson
‘The Young Will Overcome’
1969
as fast as man can go he is destroying everything he can destroy. The pace that he has picked up in sawing the trees down, killing the animals and shooting everything...You know, there's one thing I flashed on the other day: a police man took me over, and on his helmet, you know, right on his forehead, there's a beast, a bear, a bear beast on his forehead. And I say 'Well, can't the people see the mark of the beast? it's not a hard thing to see.
Charles Manson
Tuesday's Child
1970
Have you ever seen the coyote in the desert? Watching, tuned in, completely aware. Christ on the cross, the coyote in the desert--it's the same thing man. The coyote is beautiful. he moves through the desert delicately, aware of everything, looking around. He hears every sound, smells every smell, sees everything that moves. He's always in a state of total paranoia, and total paranoia is total awareness. You can learn from the coyote just like you can learn from a child. A baby is born into the world in a state of fear. Total paranoia and awareness. He sees the world with eyes not used yet. As he grows up, his parents lay all this stuff on him. They tell him, when they should be letting him tell them. Let little children lead you.
Charles Manson
Rolling Stone
1970
If I had a desire, it would be to be free from desire. I would go out into the desert. The desert is magic. I love the desert, it is my home. Nobody ever wanted me and nobody wants the desert. The stone that the builders rejected, do you remember that story?
I'll live in the desert, like a coyote. I know where every waterhole is, and every berry and fruit that's edible. They will come after me in the desert and they will die. The desert is God's kingdom.
Charles Manson
Rolling Stone
1970
...Start yourself a nice garden, for times will be trying sooner than you can think it. Yes love, I am greatly blessed. Also I want to tell you, when you pray to yourself, there is only one. One is all and all is one. Peace is inside and your love is now. Now look to life and the children are God. Why write on paper what’s in the heart? Just look around you and know I am everywhere and you are everywhere and love is all as I know you are only a reflection of the love you have.
Charles Manson
Letter
1973
''the fields they are a' golden, the cycle will complete
in order to harvest the grain, you have to cut the wheat''
Charles Manson
'Get On Home'
1969
Every morning you eat that meat with your teeth. You're all killers, you kill things better than you. And what can I say to you that you don't already know?
Charles Manson
Testimony
I knew a guy that used to work in the stockyards and he used to kill cows all day long with a big sledgehammer, and then go home at night and eat dinner with his children and eat the meat that he slaughtered. Then he would go to church and read the bible, and he would say, "That is not killing." And I look at him and I say, "That doesn't make any sense, what you are talking about?" Then I look at the beast, and I say, "Who is the beast?"
I am the beast.
I am the beast.
I am the biggest beast walking the face of the earth. I kill everything that moves. As a man, as a human, I take responsibility for that. As a human, it won't be long, and God will ask you to take responsibility for it. It is your creation. You live in your creation. I never created your world, you created it.
Charles Manson
Testimony
Where does the garbage go? as we have tin cans and garbage alongside the road, and oil slicks in your water, so you have people, and I am one of your garbage people.
Charles Manson
Testimony
Restless people, from the sick city
Burnt their homes down to make the sky look pretty
What can I do, I'm just a person
Just a line that we always seem to hear
You just sit there
Things get worse watch TV and drink your beer
Walkin' all alone not goin' anywhere
Walkin' all alone nobody seem to care
Restless as the wind
This town is killin' me
Got to put an end
To this restless misery
I'm just one of those restless people
Who can never seem to be satisfied with livin'
'In this sick old sick sick sick old sick city
It may be too late for me to say goodbye
And it may be too late
To watch this sick old city die
Goin' on the road
Yeah I'm gonna try to say
Sick city so long goodbye and die
Charles Manson
;Sick City'
1967
And then we went and got out in the desert, we found a whole world out in the desert, then I got to see the animals are smarter than people, you know, like I've never been around many animals. In jail there are hardly any animals around.
Charles Manson
Tuesday's Child
1970
We saw the little animals in the desert, and we'd see the hunters come up in their jeeps, you know? and they'd be all drunk. Their awareness level would be about this high, and we'd see all the squirrels and ground squirels and chuckers and we'd say ''hide you guys, get in the holes 'cause the beasts is comin' down the road...
Clem
1970
I decided to go into the mountains to talk to God, to apologize for 1900 years of this mess. Thats when they got me and brought me here.
Charles Manson
L.A. Free Press
1970
I am calling all to bring down this tower in Babylon, where the beast keeps me in a cage in the name of justice. When we all come together in the name of One God, love and peace- each one with himself, ready to face Judgement Day for man, standing with our hearts and lives in our hands, giving all, facing ourselves for what we have done and help me stop what man is doing, the last battle is upon us. I've seen it coming for the last 10 years, only the men who will face their own destruction- look at it coming faster and faster, tune with it. Face the blood and death as the wildlife does.
Charles Manson
Open Letter to Timothey Leary
L.A. Free Press
1970
THE EARTH IS BEING DESTROYED FASTER THAN YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. MY GOD, MAN, CANT YOU SEE YOUR BOTHER STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU GIVING ALL?
Brenda McCann
L.A. Free Press
1970
The only thing we're concerned about at all is our children and that there is something left for our children...for my children to see that there is something left for them...
You look in the newspaper - THE EARTH, all these articles about the Earth, 'is it going to last?'
It;s getting pretty heavy you know, there ready to put there finger on that button and blow the whole thing up, and like we see that there is something left to save for the children, even if it's just the sunset.
Gold
Vigil
Hall of Justice
1971
He is the one who will set all love free ... for it is hiding—and pushed down by those who fight wars and hunt animals, and cut down trees.
It's time for all love to stand and show itself...
Red, 1971
We live in a very magic world ... everyone does ... but not everyone knows it!
Red, 1971
Everything we're making good
Home is heaven in the wood—
& we make the best of cities
scornful faces—opinions, pities,
None of which have any matter
& we sing & let the clatter
rumble with itself.
Red, 1971
How strong are you?
Do you have a pair of good shoes, a warm coat or cape you could sleep in, a knife & a small pack? Are you ready to survive?
Red, 1971
Charlie and the girls are starting trial Monday. It's going to be a long summer with a lot of confusion, but if you're strong you'll be able to make it to the desert. If you can get a copy of Rolling Stone Magazine it has a lot of silly people's intellectual opinions and how they see themselves through us but if you weed through it you can see that some of our quotes come through.
Red, 1971
From "Jury" (1970)
If you stand for it, you are a part of it.
If you let them do it, then it shall be done to you also.
Red, 1970
We are at Barker's now, sneaked in at dusk. It feels good here all in one room, all in one circle. We're dusty brown and smoothly tough, with cactus cut hands of lizard scale and sun. The feeling is animal, of wind and rough ground under our feet, and real. We can't stay here at Barker's. There's too many of us. We are hunted. So tonight we dig.
"You've destroyed a whole rain forest. This United States of America was a
beautiful rain forest. All those dams -- those Hoover dams and Tennessee Valley
Authorities that you've got running up and down the water, that's why the dam
water's so fucked up now is all them aqueducts and those artificial lakes and
rivers that they create for those shopping malls and to water their automobiles
down. They've created an artificial environment on the planet with that
industrial revolution and its killing all the life on earth."
"Thinking about putting out positive energies towards your spiritual existence, if there is such a thing as your spiritual existence. If you fly in your minds eye in forever - why is the sun burning? In the crystals of many things, space dreams, thoughts I've seen, a place to be or something free to be whatever one might consider. To be what everyone might calculate in their own existence.
But in the simple minded thoughts of a sad sack of shit called Charlie Manson, there has been the burning of your own thoughts and honor that you preach to me and say that you are for or against. Being for or against something could roller-skate within ones own survival instinct until the purpose of life seems to be lost in some bum fuddled freak out with a bunch of kids on the side of a mountain when they heard the sound of Christ dying on the cross and they became aware of the Christ consciousness - what has been kept there under the ground, so far around that it became a space shuttle back to Earth and landed all the technology of the planet underneath the rattlesnake.
Guarantee survival to the flies and the bugs and the birds and bees and trees and all the things scream and say please - cant you see there's other life other than your own miserable petty selfish trips? But then I upon my petty selfish trip am also a king, in my stables ride many fine dreams."
'The European Hemisphere - Europeans are noted by their tribes; the German tribe, the French tribe, all the different tribes. Austrian tribes...all the different boundaries that were set be 1000's and 1000's of years of wars and the Greeks and the Romans, all that small little bit of history that they teach goes much deeper here in this hemisphere then those Pharaohs tombs or the bird gods of the mexican heritage of Quitzicotl and Altowapes and all those guys that were equally powerful as the pharoahs in their pyramid
So all of those come down to a stone quarry in a big black hole of a prison called Moundsville, where my people, most of them were in and out of that prison for the Tennessee Valleys were building those dams on the river and all my uncles that died in nut wards or died in the prisons fighting against those people who were taking the moonshine and the stills and forcing us to go to schools and forcing their way of life over on us after they divided us with Abe Lincoln. So this all comes down to the bottom line in the last days of Armegeddon is only the Christian concept of that Armegeddon, there is a deeper Armegeddon that comes up with the AntiChrist...
