Lynette Fromme | Natural Order

Lynette Fromme, from the documentary 'Manson'.

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'Natural Order is not up for debate, it exists independent of our thinking and is as physical a reality as gravity''

- Lynette Fromme (Red)

Behold the Nudibranch

This group includes some of the most colorful, beautiful creatures on Earth, the Nudibranch, some are toxic to predators. A Nudibranch is a member of what is now a taxonomic clade, and what was previously a suborder, of soft-bodied, marine gastropod mollusks which shed their shell after their larval stage. The word "Nudibranch" comes from the Latin nudus, naked, and the Greek brankhia, gills. Nudibranchs are hermaphroditic, and thus have a set of reproductive organs for both sexes, but like you, they cannot fertilize themselves. Nudibranchs deposit their Nudibranch eggs within a gelatinous Nudibranch spiral.

Nudibranchs are often casually called "sea slug", this is of course utter foolishness, many sea slugs belong to several taxonomic groups which are not related to Nudibranchs. A number of these other sea slugs (such as the colorful Aglajidae) are often confused with Nudibranchs, this confusion must come to an end. All known nudibranchs are carnivorous and official members of the Order of ATWA.

The Nudibranch reminds me of a women I love, for when she told me about the Nudibranch, I thought, Nudibranch? What the hell is a Nudibranch? I was soon to find out and so are you.

November Report: Music

Charles Manson Music Blog

Starting this November, I will be reporting things moving in and around ATWA, this first report is about Charles Manson's Music. 

The Charles Manson Music Blog has a new administrator and is in the process of being regenerated so keep an eye there. The blog features news about Charles Manson's music as well as several free downloads of the various out of print albums and bootlegs various people have put out over the years.

'Horsefly' by Charles Manson

There are two new Manson releases out, 'Horsefly' a 7'' collectors item in an elaborate presentation with a gatefold sleeve and inserts which was put together by the Zou. this recording is sixteen minutes and sixteen seconds, unedited. A beautifully intense moment marked in time. The bone colored limited edition version has already sold out but you can still order the black vinyl version directly from the Zou. 

'Trees' by Charles Manson

'Trees' the second installment in the Air, Trees, Water, Animals series released by Magic Bullet, 'Air' is also available from Magic Bullet Records. i have not seen or heard trees yet.

Death in June

In an interview with Death in June regarding their last album 'A Peaceful Snow', Douglas P. mentions Charles Manson and ATWA:

'' Some are beyond redemption – and illumination. They truly walk the track of the hunted strewn with mines and booby traps of their own making and I look forward to watching them become ever more crippled and disabled. Dogs of the lowest order eating their own shit don’t deserve any photos. Certainly it’s not something I’d like to see in public. Does anyone? The lying, deceitful, coarse and vulgar display themselves for what they truly are so don’t need any help from me. Charlie Manson would ‘X’ people from his Life which, as history has shown, was very effective. Besides ATWA it was another good idea of his. Charlie certainly had a few.'' 

- Douglas P., Death in June

Thanks to Douglas for mentioning ATWA and for decades of devotion to his music and vision.

That's all for November, we welcome in December as Autumn turns to Winter.

- Hawk

ATWA | ETTE | Humans A.D.

What if the Human race vanished? What would happen to the Earth?

Charles Manson | No Surrender

The truth is honor, and honor is the truth. Without either, you're both in trouble...

They've lost that. I haven't lost mine, I just haven't surrendered. I'm standing here in 1944. They say the war's over, but I don't believe it. No one told me it was over. No one that was in the truth told me it was over. All the liars went down the road and said it was over, but no one that I knew that was telling me the truth said it was over. So I guess it's not over, as far as I'm concerned... you've got to start all over, see? And in starting all over, you see that other people started all over. 


Survival is the center in the vortex of justice. So to serve survival, we must start all over, and take stock on all the graveyards, and look at why have we been fighting all these years? What have we been struggling for? They always cover it up, and never let us really know what the problem is. They'll cover it up with all kinds of confusion, and never let the children know what's really going on. They just buy and sell their blood, and the United States won't even give their own children the benefit of their own rights which their fathers fought for and the graveyards are filled with our fathers and our brothers and all the veterans and people who fought for us, and then when we come back, our government doesn't appreciate it. They don't have any gratitude at all. all they do is buy and sell us on the other end - we've got not voice, the people have got no voice. The government is supposed to be 'We the People', but it's not 'We the People'; the government has already been bought and sold. They've already sold our government. 


The only chance we've got at survival is to pick back up the same thoughts that our fathers had and raise it up from the grave - change the guards. Change the guns. stand the men up to attention again, put them out in the field of honor, and start all over again. It's like a cake that you've got, that's turned bad. you've got to cut some of it off the edge, so, which edge are you going to cut? You've got to cut the edge that's holding the deception, that's holding the lies, that's holding the confusion, that's holding the brainwash. 


Any man, any person, with any mind, at all, if you break it all down and boil it all down -- what does it all boil down to? The people that are rolling your money. The people that are controlling your money. The people that are controlling your media. The people that are controlling your music. The people that are controlling yours books, your mind, your legal perspectives. They're in control of your judges. They're in control of your courts. They're in control of your lawyers. They're in control of your mind. They're charging you rent to live in your own brain... in other words, like, you're all dead. 


The only thing that's worth anything is the graveyard. The graveyard is the only thing that's worth a fuck. the rest of it is a bunch of horseshit. Where's our rights? Where's our honor? Where's our world? I got it, down here at the bottom. There's nobody home. The light's on. The radio's playing, but it's still playing - I could still hear 1944 - I could still hear 1943. Nothing's changed. Not in my world. It's still now - and the same now that was now in the battlefields, and laying in the graveyards, so go over in the graves and pick your now up. Pick your battlefield up. Pick your army up. Pick your MAC up. Pick your names up. I haven't got any aspirations, but I know. I see. I'm aware. I understand what God is, and I know he lives in man. But if you don't wake up pretty soon, there's going to be nothing left to wake up to.

- Charles Manson

A Prisoner of War: To Every Man That Has a Mind

Charles Manson being interviewed in handcuffs by the BBC in 1991. Manson used this platform to speak to the world, giving more information and insight then was generally common in interviews with media in the United States. The statement found in this interview and transcribed below regarding the Nuremberg trials in which 6000 German soldiers were hanged for obeying orders. Shortly after this interview Manson and others close to him cut off the media, rejecting all requests for interviews.  Please listen to 5:44 onward, his words spoken off the cuff ring true to the aware and defiant. 

''I want to say this to every man that has a mind, 


to all the intelligent life forms that exist on this planet Earth. 


I wish really to say this to the Scottish Rites, and the Masons and all the people with minds who have degrees of knowledge and are aware of courts, laws, United Nations, governments. 


In the Forties we had a war. And all of our economies went towards this war effort. The war ended, on one level, but we wouldn't let it end on the other levels. We kept buying and selling this war. I'm not locked in a penitentiary for crimes, I'm locked in the Second World War. I'm locked in the Second World War with this decision to bring to the world court, there must be one world court, or we're all going to be devoured by crime. Crime, and the definition of crime, comes from Nuremberg, when the judges decided that they wanted to call Second World War a crime. Honor and war is not a crime. When you go to war and you're a soldier and you fight for your god and your country, that's not criminal. That's honorable. That's what you must do to be a man. If you don't fight for your god and your country, you're not worth anything. If you have no honor, then you're not worth Patty's pig. Truth is, we've got to overturn the decision that you made in the Second World War, or the Second World War will never end. Decrees of the war were written in Switzerland, in Geneva, the conferences that were made, by the men at the tables, clearly stated that anyone in uniform would be given the respect of their rank and their uniforms. Then, when the United States won the war, and got all the Germans in handcuffs, they started breaking their own rules. And they've been breaking their own rules ever since. 


War is not a crime. But if you judge war as a crime, from a court room, then turn around. If two and three is five, then three and two is five. If you say war is a crime, then crime becomes your war. I am, by all standards, a prisoner of war. I have been a prisoner of war since 1944, in juvenile hall, for setting the school building on fire in Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been locked up 45 years trying to figure out how I got to be a criminal. It matters not whether I want to be.... You've got to keep criminals going to keep the war going because that's the economy. Your whole economy is based on war. You've got to get your dollar bills off the war, you got to take your silver markets sterling off the war. You've got to take your gold and your diamonds off the war. You've got to overturn that decision that hung six thousand men by the neck. You killed six thousand soldiers for obeying orders. That's wrong, and the world has got to accept they're wrong. If you accept you're wrong, and you say you're sorry for all the things you've done, then I'll be a note in that chord, and maybe we can get some harmony going on this planet earth now.'' - Charles Manson

Charles Manson, BBC Interview

 I'm not easily stirred, emotionally... But I could not watch this without feeling all this intensity in my soul. Some footage is just more powerful than others, in terms of what it communicates, and how it resonates. It's not exactly sadness or anger or anything one can so easily classify, though it is this and so much more. Words just fall short. It's the same thing I feel when I see a wild creature locked down in a cage, or how it would've felt to witness any good man or woman throughout the whole of human history be condemned to death by a court of infinite inferiors. 


We know in our hearts that it steals nothing from majesty, since that realm is greater than the transient rule of these petty, pitiful, lifeless accusers, but it's the strange, deeply pronounced feeling of being-in-time. Like, if you can't step back from the moment, it's so overwhelming, because we see ourselves in these words here and we see alikin in those shackles if ever there was. We know that we're the world he's communicating to, and not this tomb called society. We feel it, because we are it. It's here and we're there. There is no separation. It's not a new feeling, but it's just so hard to watch him in that kind of situation without tearing up... sensing his determination, in spite of all worldly frustrations... watching how this King can't even sweep his hair out of his eyes,for he sits with his hands chained.


 It is impossible not to consider how the average, low-intelligence viewer would interpret it all -- and knowing that this distorted vision is precisely how the crooked media-money-minds intended it. It's like nobility and innocence in a pillory. The nastiest devils sit gawking and throwing stones at harmonic projections of the Absolute. It's hard to watch without a shift in pulse, because in watching, you almost feel like audience to that crime, and we want nothing of it, and we want to intervene directly, and set our lives against that entire current. I can see where the X came from -- and I know why it grew angled rays. - Vitholf

Charles Manson | The New World Order

''The New World Order comes from within.

There's no dictator or leader, we've already done all that. You see it?

We've already been Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin, we've already did all those things.

So if we don't go backwards, we just go upside down and take what's already been done and utilize it.  Utilize everything! Every drop of blood that has ever been shed in the Martyrs - we've got the Ranch because all the martyrs are doing now is blowing themselves up to get to the Ranch.''

- Charles Manson

ATWA | Children of Nature

ATWA is Order

Most people don't realize what I've put forth in the last 25 years.

Because they don't live in their own minds.

 25 years ESP with 3000 men is 25 years x 3000 = That's a very big person. I got 25 x 3000 = before but in the mind of honor & forever is like - + = world of mind = the laws must come from survival of life. Life first. Then all the order that that means NOT for people, that's a no center. All life forms must be in a center balance. Making laws to save or redeem people won't help redeem shellfish or snails and that may end up the end of people also. How to see so deep under the minds of people. Look at trees as people who never move or speak and spiders as eyes inside the mind of God with zoos and pure thought of all that is. 

The people games are unreal to the real even if they are real games they are not within the real's real that rolls wheels outside money. When everything you do is wrong and nothing you ever say is real or true. When you are totally and completely full of shit. Everyone is looking for reasons to find you wrong or crazy or sick or dead. Everyone is trying to beat you at something or get over on you or get off on you and if you see and say they call it paranoia. At the same time their system is all built on winning, beat someone, run with the ball, kick the dogs, etc. I never lived in that world because I never been good enough to be a person. That's why your kind of world can't judge me because I've been the courtroom all the way back before the lies and games covered and destroyed the honor. Nature's ways are with honor. Without honor and truth you can't have order. A play on order to make up a movie is a play, a game. 


You can keep making 50,000,000 rules a day and without the authority to move the dispensation through to a procedure of righteousness, majesty, honor, and all that stuff that died in past wars and live in forever. 30 years ago I started into forever and everyone called me crazy and when I said ATWA I was a complete nut. Now the TV said they were doing all I thought in the 1964 and no matter what I thought others who had doctorate recognized university and I could never raise above a bug. If Germans are trying to survive as a little girl moral cross good. That's the game that's already in motion. Anti-Christ and taking crosses down and crucifying all who take my life may save some bugs. 

One army can do the will needed. You can pass a law that says no porno on computers and they will make another side and play laws says you can. My way would be to go crucify and hang a note saying "ATWA or go to your dead God". ATWA is like a ship and as it comes into the contingencies where life is alone and strategic awareness comes through play into a no game reality then my authority will be the kind of creationism of theocracy. I can say it but writing it is another play. 


It's like this also: The need has its head on fire running covered with blood and people don't see what they don't want to see. So 1/3 got to go and even then they are too big for a God. No one can be God if everyone wants to be God. Only when they accept me as God can they be God. As soon as I say it everyone else will run to say they are God. But they don't even have a bug on earth. I DO. As chicken head people -- a guy was burning the feelers off the cockroach and I told him "Stop" and I picked up the bug and got burned up in its place and took him out of the fire and off the wheel of people's misusing that level of life. I can set it going and coming and what people think means less and less because it's distorted patterns for money circles and not even on earth. Be me, get in my image and be God all you must do is be true. I don't want to be anything but alive. Games are gone from my minds space. One day is all and we got 1000 years to get it right. ATWA is order. MacM

- Charles Manson

1995

Living Space

The folkish commune that came to be known by the convenient media tag as "the Manson Family" could serve as an aggressive blueprint for the attainment of the most ancient and noble conquest of Lebensraum or "living-space'', a concept, no doubt at the heart of any great commune or movement that has ever been set forth apon this planet. 


The American Revolution comes to mind here, as this concept, which is the key ingredient  for the balance of a healthy, sound ecology and the survival of the species. In a manner that would be conducive with THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS, rather than a destructive force against this very Nature. Such undeniable truths were undoubtedly realized by all founding fathers and is a real and valid concern today now more than ever!  


One can draw parellels here between the biblical children of Ham in search of a promised land and the Deutschlander of the 1930's and 1940's and more importantly, US in the HERE and NOW for we ATWArriors are indeed a Volk ohne Raum- ''a people without a space'',  and unless each and every one of us becomes citizen soldiers to the fullest extent of the word this dream may go off into oblivion ,and with it not only the existence of the human species but the entire planet, which in turn would send such irreversible repercussions into the universe that the entire solar system would lay in peril. The redemption plan begins and ends with the attainment of a living space, and it is only the armed peasant that can and will and must WORK to see that this DREAM become a REALITY for if we fail in this respect there can be no peace, nor will we be afforded the only one true prosperity - that is the reward of living in accord with NATURE. Think about this - if the concept of "living space" was a valid enough concern for so many great and terrible revolutions and world wars of yesterday and obviously was at the forefront of Manson's mindset in the late 1960's, how much more now, at an estimated 10 billion people upon this planet, is the necesitty that such concepts become reality. This can only come through complete and absolute unyielding REVOLUTION in thought, in word and in deed - THE ONLY WAY THERE WILL EVER BE PEACE ON EARTH IS TO BE AT PEACE WITH EARTH  (ATWA WEHRBAUER). 

- Mac Bloscaidh

September 2011

Harvest Time

The fields they are a' golden, now the cycle will complete, in order to harvest the grain, you have to cut the wheat''. 
- Charles Manson, 
''Get on Home'' 
1969

The word ''harvest'', the process or period of gathering in crops comes from the Anglo-Saxon word haverfest, "Autumn". It refers to a time between seasons of reaping and gathering grain and other garden foods along with herbs and other plants. It is also the time of canning, preserving and drying what can be saved for the winter.

The full moon nearest the autumnal equinox is called the Harvest Moon.  In the traditions of our ancestors, Harvest Festivals were often traditionally held on or near the Harvest Moon. This year of 2011, the Harvest Moon will fall on September 12, with the Sun in Virgo and the Moon in Pisces.  

In the days before electricity, farmers counted on the lamp of the Harvest Moon to gather their crops. Making up for the autumn season’s waning daylight, the Harvest Moon faithfully provides several nights of dusk-till-dawn moonlight.

Harvest Moon is a magical time in the Order of ATWA, a time of reaping what has been sown, what has grown, a reward for hard work, a time to gather, prepare and share what will be needed for the dark inward seasons on the horizons.

- Hawk

September 2011

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Charles Manson | Coming into my Heart Again

Coming into my heart again

I an the darkness standing on the moon

Love and life I'm just a part of them

Soul soldiers never lose 'cause it's all within

The wind wins again...

and again

The eyes are the windows of my soul

I know

I know

I'll never start again...

Because I'll never end

Golden eye of the world is watching the soul tonight

As I sail my ships across the starlit sky

Low riders I know thee well

I've danced a thousand demons through the midnight hell

How can I tell ?

Who can I tell ?

Would I ?

Could I ?

Should I tell?

I tell myself

I am my own heaven

And my own Hell

- Charles Manson

Lynette Fromme | Beauty & Duty

Sandra Good & Lynette Fromme 
at the Hall of Justice, City of Angels, 1970

''Charlie loved us to be beautiful

and he let us be beautiful.

And he robbed us from our parents...

and he gave us back to ourselves.

And he wouldn't take us hanging on him,

he wouldn't be our "leader".

He made us be strong inside ourselves

and be our own leader....'' 

- Lynette Fromme 

1971

Conversations with Charles Manson | Talking Hawk | 1/1

A two part video of a conversation between Charles Manson and Hawk.

Peacock Spider

Our Father

ETTE Program

Estimated Time of Total Extinction.

The ETTE Program prints out what flowers, trees and wildlife are dropping out. I feel the people are gone and I am living in the cockroaches.

LIFE - ETTE.

Humans are gone in another Estimated Time of Total Extinction.

If the computer had a dying program - a list of what's going off the edge into death, what it is and how's it going,  EZ.

You could also have an ETD - Estimated Time of Death, when all life will pass through the 'no rights for money' or the Aliken Program - moss is life.

- Charles Manson

http://www.breathingearth.net/

Charles Manson | Interview 2011

Manson recently broke a 20 year media silence to speak to Vanity Fair Spain. Below is the unedited interview with Manson. The online version featured an article on ATWA which mentioned the Order of ATWA website 'One World Order' and also ATWA Brasil. The interview received worldwide media coverage in which Manson was misquoted and his message generalized and distorted. 

Lopez:  Yes, this is David from Vanity Fair.

Manson:  Ah, and you have some questions for me.

Yes, I have some questions but I cannot hear you very good. Let's try to do it this way. First of all, thank you for talking with me and thank you for helping us with this interview.

Mr. Manson I don't know if you can hear me properly, but let me ask you my first question. I was wondering to show to the people in Europe that don't know so much about your case as in the United States, but I want to ask you who was Charles Manson in the past and who is Charles Manson today.

Everyone is God. Some wake up, some don't. The humans have already condemned themselves in many directions in English entiendes m·s palabras en espanol, pero yo no hablo correcto, Ö. I got the thoughts from the prisons of the United States of Wall Street business people, money mongers and bureaucrats, and lying media have convicted me for their crimes and blame me for their children. Does that answer that question?

Yes, all right. Mr. Manson? I'm sorry, it's a difficult connection and I can't hear you properly, can you hear me OK?

I can hear you well.

I hear you very very low, but it's OK. Let me please repeat my first question as I think it was impossible to hear anything. I was asking you to tell to the European people where our magazine is sold, who was Charles Manson and who is Charles Manson today?

All right. Charles Manson is everyone. He is the air, the trees, the green things that give us air. Hes the bottom of the ocean and the highest of the sky, hes nothing and everything. No one ever died, hes all death, he is all the graves, past and present, future there's no such thing, there's only now, hes now, Charlie Manson is now. No one has ever been here, no one will ever be here. There's no one here at all. There's only reflections of the stars that are in eternity, forever. God, love, truth, yourself, it's inside of you, it's inside of everyone. If you don't let God live on Earth, there will be no life on earth. God is all life, life is all. Man and the son, that's all there is. If that can't live, if that is kept down by confusion, lies, and distorted, twisted, greedy lust, passion, ruling the souls of people media of Wall Street won't let live, then it must fade away. All the money's dying because the people won't give rights. All the preachers are saying one thing and going in the other direction when no one's looking. It's all darkness.  Manson is zero. Does that communicate? Am I communicating?

Mmm. I imagined that.

Mr. Lopez.

Yes, it's very difficult to hear. I only hear a little noise and I'm very concentrated trying to understand his words but it's almost impossible. I don't know if he can hear me.

We can hear you.

 I was saying that everybody I talk with about you told me that you are a very very smart person. And I was thinking OK if Mr. Manson is so smart, how could he never be seen showing no remorse or repent about what happened in the past if he was never going to get the chance to get a release from a parole hearing.

Well everything doesn't hinge on release. Release is in your mind. Prison is a thought. Everyone outside thinks what they think about prison, but everybody in prison has the opposite thought of what everybody outside thinks. There is a day and a night, a light and a dark. And in the darkness, there are different thought patterns than in the light. In the graves are different thoughts of the dead, in the dead, than in the light. The Pharaoh never died, he just built a big pyramid and went inside of it. There's an inside and an outside. The inside and outside, nothing ever dies, because nothing ever lives.

 Living and dying are two games that are played with time and war.  That's money, that's greed, lust and the passion of all the humans that call themselves people. And human beings, they're actually just a fungus in the universe, just a piece of dirt floating through space. I'm not really smart. Everybody is as smart as I am.  There's only one mind, and we all have a piece of it.  We give it to God, or we take it and run. We're little rabbits running across the Universe, or we're stationary temples for God and his will for ATWA. 

The air that we breathe is order.  We need to save our air. The trees that give us the air and all the green things from the bottom of the ocean to the tops of the mountains - that give us air - we must protect. That's PHU*. You can do more in prison to change the world than you can in the bureaucrat, and the lying-ass media and what they call the United States of Wall Street; it's just about money, and they feed on other countries with their war games to take the money. That's all they want, is the money. They live and die by their God money.

You have got to turn your God inside yourself, and find out that God lives inside of you; that you are God.  Until you find that out, then... you think I'm smart?  You're as smart as anybody else. There's nobody else but you, to you.  Prison is not a bad place, it's just another place. People that work in prison are just other people, like people that work in factories or sweep the streets. People are just people. My friend used to give guided tours over there in one of your prisons.

Do you feel Mr. Manson that you are a kind of a martyr of our society?

Say that again.

Do you feel that you are a kind of martyr of the society?

Well, we all are.  Everybody in prison is.  There's no crime.  Crime is a big game that these people are playing with their children. The people they lock up are for movies. They make movies and television shows.  Crime is a business, crime is a big business called Government, and Government is a big business called war, and wars feed on their young children, feeds on their young men. Their bodies come back.  They are not allowed to kill people, they only get killed.  They're bought and sold by the slaves of Wall Street, who study how to control humanity with their psychology and their philosophy games, and it all points out to how much profit you can make, how much money have you got. That's killing the atmosphere. That's killing the trees and the animals. Look in the zoo if you wanna see Charlie, look in the zoo, is that the prison?  Is there prison in zoos?  Or are your zoos in prison?  Why do you have your children locked up in cages, calling it prison and crime? It's suffering and misery created by Wall Street, created by greedy people who want to be somebody and put on faces, and play-act life as a movie; it's not. Life is all the graveyards that's been piled up for the last 2000 years in the name of God, Jesus Christ. Sad painted flower.

Mr. Manson you have now a new lawyer Giovanni di Stefano who is doing new movements to get your release from jail.

No, that's just another Roman Catholic. That's a Roman Catholic conspiracy to take my life and use my life for what in Siciliano Italians are doing in the Mafia. That's a mafioso. It's the same district attorney with a different face on, that's all.

But, what do you mean with that?

When you hear what Omar Gaddafi talking about what hes going to do with the world, because hes representing the people over here that heís got locked-up in the law game. That's Vincent Bugliosi, that's just another face from the Roman Catholic Church. That's some Bishop somewhere.  Bishop Mahony in Los Angeles built a cathedral in the name of our children, the martyred souls of all the people they've got locked-up in prison for doing what they raised them up to do. How are you gonna raise children up to do things and when they do it call them criminals, and lock them up in prison? That is not even sensible nor reasonable, nor intelligent. It's not that I'm intelligent. It's just that you are ruled by a lot of stupid bureaucrats who won't listen to their own children. All the Manson family was, were their children.  Their unwanted ones, thrown in the dirt, kicked out the back doors, locked-up in juvenile halls and reform schools.  The slaves have taken over the United States from the Confederate war, the past is crawling up the side of the future, looking at it like it was prey and predator. Dreams of dreamers dreaming dreams.

Mr. Manson, now that you're talking about the news, what do you think about Obama?

Obama?

Yes, what do you think about him?

I think hes foolish for doing it. I don't know how they tricked him into doing that. Someone tricked that guy into that. He doesn't realise what they're doing to him. They're playing him.

But, do you like him? Do you think he gives some kind of hope for someone or not?

I have no room for liking or disliking. I set the truth, I don't like or dislike it.

You look like at peace with yourself. Is it the way you show it or is it the way it is?

I don't see it. I don't believe the media, to start with. I don't believe anything the media says, not one word. I've learnt that over a period of my life. I've learnt that the media, they play the game, they play for themselves. They don't care about nobody else. And that's Wall Street, and that's the dead. They're all dead, they're brain dead. They're holding on. They're brain dead, and they've got a slave in the President's office.

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Id like to ask you a question about your case in '69. Of course the case is still generating a lot of doubts, but I have my own doubts about it and I'm going to explain them to you. I was wondering after what happened the first day in the Sharon Tate house, why you drove your people the next day to LaBiancaís house?

Why did I drive the people to the LaBianca house. I'll have to search my mind there, that ah, you know, that's a long time ago. That's like saying why did you eat an ice-cream cone in 1946. It's over 40 years ago.

Yes, but you have always said that you didn't ask anybody to kill anybody.

No, no.

So, if you know what happened the first night with your people, why you drove your people the next night to the LaBianca house?

To start with, you're on a false premise. It wasn't my people.

OK, your friends, I'm sorry.

They were just people that lived in the same ranch I lived in.

OK. Let's call them your friends.

I don't even use that word. They were just themselves, whatever they did was their business. I live in the underworld. I don't tell people what to do. They know what to do. If they don't know what to do, they don't come around me, because I am very mean. I am very mean, do you understand what I'm saying when I say mean?

Yes, I understand.

I'm mal hombre. Nasty. I'm in the bull-ring. I run in the bulls with the heart of the world.  I don't play, I shoot people. I'm bad, I'm a mean guy. I'm an outlaw, I'm a criminal. I'm everything bad. You must know what to do. That's what Tex told in his book.  He said that he didn't tell me what to do, I knew what he wanted me to do and I did what he wanted me to do. Do you understand that?

Yes.

In other words, I have a mind, a brain, I know how to think with my mind and my brain, and nobody beats me and gets away with it, I'm a gangster, I'm a hoodlum. I'm a charlatan, a con man. I was raised all my life- Ive been 63 years in prison. The prison is my home, I live in here. I've been here all my life. My people were imprisoned, my family has been imprisoned. I go all the way back to George Washington. George Washington was a crook and a criminal. George Washington's navy were pirates. They were pirates and cut-throats.  They called them United States Navy but they weren't accepted in the English language. Does that communicate?

Yes. But, do you understand my question?

Let me explain this. In prison, like, you know, I don't know how to explain it. I didn't have any thoughts, I didn't think one way or another. I didn't go to LaBiancaís house. I went to Harold True's house, which is next door. And LaBianca's house was always an empty house. We used to use it to go there to have sex because nobody lived there. It was an empty house for a long time. And when we went there, there was a dog over there, and we went to see if Herald True was over there and there was somebody living there. They had just rented the house to somebody. I didn't even know that was there. Tex was with me, and Tex stayed there, and I went on somewhere else. And he did whatever he did. It's none of my business. It's his business.  I know what conspiracy is. I know what the law says, malice of forethought. I understand what murder is. Listen to me very carefully: I didn't break the law, I don't need to break the law. The law is 200 or 300 years old. It doesn't work anyway. You can do anything you want and never break the law. You've got a mind, you use your mind. If there's something you want done, you just think about it. Can you do that? Do you understand that?

Yes, I understand what you mean.

Remember Jomo Kenyatta in Africa and Kenya? It's Voodoo. Voodoo, voodoo. It's the devil. If you believe in God then you must believe in the devil too. I mean, there's gotta be something good and bad if you've got anything going on a wheel. It rolls on two sides, doesn't it? The light and the dark. I live in the dark, and I do what I want. And if you don't do right, you don't come around me unless you're right. If you're right, then that's cool, I'll be right along with you. That's what they call in prison, 'right on'. Do you know what right on means?

No, what does it mean?

Do you see that big fist? They say 'power to the people'?  That's the hand of God. When God says something, it doesn't have to go through his mouth. The river's got a mouth but it don't speak, it's got a bed, but it don't sleep. That's what we do. We don't talk, we don't tell on each other. Whatever you do, it's your business.  Whatever I do is my business. And you don't have no business in my business. If you beat me for my money, I'm coming. I'm coming for my money. You don't beat me for my money. You just don't do that. That's like you don't fly unless you get a plane because you don't have wings. You know, whatever you do right, you do right.  You do right, and you can say, right on, right on. God is great, God is wonderful. God is all, God is everything. And if you're not doing what God tells you, then you're not doing what you say you have to do for yourself. If you make an agreement with me and we've got into a deal and you're underworld, and I'm underworld, you abide for what you say, because your word is your bond and your bond is your life. And if you don't want to do what you say, then don't say it, because if you say wrong, in the wrong place, then you don't exist anymore. Because sooner or later God's will will catch up with you, and you convicted me for being the will of God.

Mr. Manson, a smart person as you are, and as a person that knows the law as you say you know, have you ever felt criminal responsible for what happened?

Say it again.

As a smart person as you are, and as a person that knows the law as you say you know, I'm asking you if have you ever felt criminal responsible for what happened in 69?

I'm responsible for that?

No, if you have ever felt criminal responsible for what happened?

I'm responsible for everything. I'm responsible for the horses if they run over somebody, because I'm renting the horses out. I'm responsible for the tenants that live in my building that sleep in my house. I'm responsible for the dog if he bites somebody and I don't have a leash on him. I'm responsible for my existence, I'm responsible for my moves. I'm responsible for my thoughts and my thinking. I would never do anything against myself because that would be a sin against God. I'm not stupid, man.  I don't do things that's gonna hurt me, and if I do something, nobody is gonna know anything about it. And if nobody knows  anything about it, then it does not exist to anyone, because to me there is no one. There is only my air, my trees, my green, my water and my zoo, and I'm trying to put all the animals back where they belong so that I can get on with my life. Does that communicate to you?

Yes.

Then that's you, as much as it's me.  You tell me something, you tell me one, two three, I've got one, two three in my head, you got one, two, three in your head. Its the same head. There's no difference between you and I. You have a guy over there who gives tours to the old Spanish prisons, that was in Alcatraz with me. I was in Alcatraz with a guy called Alvin Karpis. He went to Spain and he got a job in one of your old prisons, in one of your closed down prisons. Giving guided tours. He sent me a picture of him standing in the Spanish prison, with a flashlight, haha.  

Let me ask you another question. You have always been talking about air, trees, animals, but it surprises me that there's no room for people.

No, people convicted themselves. They didn't give me no rights. They didn't let me speak, they drove over me and did anything they wanted to do, so, go along with it. This guy says he wants to appeal for me; he doesn't want to appeal for me, he wants to appeal for himself. Because they butchered themselves.  That's why the Pope is not Italian anymore. Do you know that?  The Spanish in Madrid, the brotherhood of the Catholic Church in Madrid is not the same brotherhood as the Catholic Church in Rome, do you understand that?

Yes, yes.

Well, then I am more in line with you than I am with the Italians because the Italian is the district attorney who was actually the mafia gangster telling me not to talk to the cops, when he raised me up, as Alvin Karpis in prison; all the gangsters and the old guys that raised me up as a child, in prison. I was raised in prison, and I know everything in prison from the men that came into from the outside, because I never really had an outside in my mind. The only outside I had in my mind was at the ranch with the horses, and the horses were my friends. I looked out for the horses, and the kids. The kids that came around, but all the kids in the ranch, the family, were thrown away kids like myself. Do you understand what that means?

Yes, yes. I understand.

Do you understand what Jesus was? He was a thrown away kid.

But these people is not like a horse, part of the ecosystem too? I'm not talking about countries or leaders or nothing like that, just people.

Let me ask you this sweetheart: if you've got people but you've got no atmosphere, no air, no water, what does that mean?

Yes, but I mean, it's another piece of the puzzle.

So, the order of your own mind would be to put a plastic bag on your head and tie it and say, I'm doing this for people and write a note, that you gave your life to them. And see if that changes them. They're not going to pay any attention to you, if you die a thousand times. You've been dead for two thousand years and ain't nobody done anything but feed on you. That's all them Christians do every day, is feed on Christ. They don't come back and say, we want to get you off the cross and let you out of prison, no. We want to keep you in prison, as long as you're dead, we love you. But we don't love you when you come alive. When you come alive, then you become the devil. And then we think things, and you think things, and then we go off and do what........

Hello? I have Charlie on the line.

OK, great. Mr. Manson you phoned again. Thank you. You speak Spanish?

SÌ, muy poco. Banditos del otro lado. Se llama jefe con pistola. Muchos muertos hombres.

You still practice there in the prison? I mean, you have people there from Mexico?

Yeah, mucho gente.

And you talk with them in Spanish?

Yes, pero es pocho.

So maybe we could be doing this interview in Spanish?

Pero no entiendes correcto Espanol. Palabras sueltas que otra. Montanas, caballos y p·jaros. The bird god, yeah.

Let me just do a little joke. When you learnt Spanish you didn't use it to talk about birds; maybe you used it to talk about women.

Yes, about women too. I understand.

OK, Mr. Manson, let me do you another question. I've been talking with people that work in your case in the precedent years and that are still working on it during the parole hearings and they told me that when they say NO in a parole hearing it is because they still think you are a danger for the society. What do you think about that?

Sorry, can you repeat that again?

I was saying that during the last weeks I was talking with a couple of people that were working in the past in your case and that are still working on it for example when you have a parole hearing in the prison, and they told me that they don't release you because they still think you are a danger for society after 42 years in jail. I was wondering what you think about that. Do you think you could be a danger for society or that you could live outside the society?

That I couldn't live outside?

In the society?

That I couldn't live in society?

That you would be a danger for it.

Ha ha ha.  That's really a joke, man. 

That's what the people from the case say.

Yes, well, those are the people who can't even live in their own minds, I guess. What is society? Society is a madhouse over here. I don't know about Spain, but all the society I know, it's: if you've got money, you can do anything. If you don't have money, you can't do anything.  And if you've got money then they wonít give it to you. In other words, if I've got 900 million dollars in the bank and I go to draw it out, they say, ''Who are you?  Sue me. It's not like the media is telling you, it's not like you're friends tell you. They tell you their point of view because that's the way they know.  What society? Society in the desert is with lizards and spiders and bugs. If I go over the mountains it's the eagles and condors, the horses and mules. I mean, what's not to get along in society?  What level of society? What the hell is society? Is society downtown, main street, actors or carpenters? Or what?  You know, society, that's a vast....

How would you call it, the system?

The system. The system is money, that's all that is. And they won't give me any money. I say, ''Well, let me get some money''.  Everybody's making millions; you know how much money has been made from my life?  Do you know why they stole my life? Because I started out at Catholic boys school in 1946 and I wouldn't go to their confirmation. They wanted to confirm me, you know, smack me in the face and all this shit. And I told them no, and they said, you must be the Devil then.  I say, why do I got to be the Devil? They said, well you stand there and hold the door. So I stood and held the door for 300 kids that went by for confirmation, and I didn't go to confirmation. I escaped and stole a bicycle, and they called me the Devil because I set the school on fire. Because I wouldn't go to their schools and I wouldn't listen to their garbage; because I'm from the South.  My people were killed by that guy named Abraham Lincoln. You know, the slaves said the south will rise again.  The slaves said that.  You know why the slaves said that?  Because it wasn't like Abraham Lincoln freed anybody.  In other words, what system, Abraham Lincoln's system?  He just did whatever he could get away with, just like they're doing it every day.  There's no rights over here.  They play-act like you've got rights.  They make it look good if you're rich and you've got money, but what's the bottom line?   You got people locked up over here for 20 or 30 years, and the procedures; the Supreme Court says you can only keep them locked up 21 days**, and they're locked up 10 and 20 years, because nobody cared. And when you do care, then you're considered crazy and you're locked up in the nut wards.  And then they've got filthy psychiatrists coming over with all kinds of garbage in their heads, they end up hanging themselves. We've got a madhouse over here. Talk about society, come on. There we are, society in Italy passes out wedding rings, and gives girls ones they like, they're pimping the world, man.  Look at what they've done to the Irish people, look at what they've done to the African people. And you think I want to adjust to that?  Adjusting to that? I'm much worse than that. That's the only way I can be better than that. I can't be any better than that unless I'm worse than that. Because that's worse than I can think about, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do half the stuff they do, and that's what I told you about the President.  I don't know how they tricked him to doing that job, but he's stuck with it.

Mr. Manson, seeing that you've been like a Rock Star for 40 years, it's strange that someone who has been sentenced for murder, several people could see this person as a Rock Star, an iconic person.

You know, I can't think what the other people think. I've got to try to figure out what I'm thinking, I can't get into other people's head and think what I think.

What do you think about that?

No pienso.  I don't got no mind, man.

Of course, you're not going to be worried about that.

I no have no thoughts man. I'm free man. I don't think.  Thinking is a bad way to go, man. Thinking goes around in circles, no matter what you think, it's never that way anyway. Bodhisattva, you know, all the ancient religions say... What other people think I was, that's what they think, I don't have thoughts in that. I go up to the sky and open up my mind and look at the stars, I go off into the universe and open my mind I'm all the cosmic conscience of all the stars you see in the sky at night, man. I'm nobody. I'm nothing.

How would you like to be remembered once you pass away, as you're a famous person?

I don't even know what that means, ''remember''.

How would you like to be reminded by people when you pass away?

There's gonna be no people. You can't seem to understand. Let me explain to you: your air is dying. Automobiles and fossil fuels are destroying your atmosphere. You cannot face that.  If you cannot face that, and stop that fossil fuel, and stop all them automobiles, trucks, cars, and buses and planes, there's gonna be no air to breathe. You're not gonna have any brain to remember anything. You're not gonna be there at all. Do you understand that?

Yes.

You're not gonna be there. Your atmosphere is dying.  Can't you compute that in your....... what do you call it, society? Or system, or whatever, it's not gonna be there. Your water is dying. The Black Water Blues is singing it.  They're singing it over here in the south, telling you, hey man, you're killing all the water, making paper to make magazines. That's one reason I had trouble with this magazine interview thing. Because you're killing trees to make the damn magazine, and you're all making money, and got a way of life, but it's killing all your fucking air. You're at war with your life support systems on the planet Earth, and you won't face the truth about it.  You won't look at it.  Those kids kill their lives to try to  communicate to you people. They gave their lives.  All of those children of the 60s, Mary, Susie, Leslie, Lyn, Patty, Sandy, Bruce, Bobby, Steve.  All of those guys stood up, and they gave their lives with what they were doing.

Is there any solution? What can we do to avoid that happen?

I'm telling you, every time I got out, the desert is deader than it was before. The mule deer are gone, the deer don't live there no more.  These bugs are gone, those bees don't exist.  The birds don't fly over here no more.  How come?

So there's no longer a solution to work against that?

Yeah, there's a solution, yes there is one. There's only one solution: everybody in the world accept God, air, and work for God, air. Everybody in the world accept air as God. Accept air as God, because without air you do not exist. If you're going to exist, you have to exist with air. You've got to stop warring against air. Your sin is against yourself, is your sin against air. Air is all you've got. If you're making money to sell your air, you're selling your own life. You're buying and selling your own life to destruction. That system that you say that I'm not good, that I'm a danger to, I might be a danger to your stupidity and I'm a danger to your ignorance, but I'm not a danger to intelligent life forms. I'm not a danger to the people who want to exist on the planet. I'm not a danger to farmers, I'm not a danger to poor people, I'm not a danger to soldiers who don't want to hurt nobody, who don't wanna go to war, but who's forced into war by the bureaucrats who want to destroy themselves. They ride around in big cars, wear expensive suits and they've got lots of money.  And that money is their God.   The money is not my God, the air is my God, the trees are my God, the water, I've got to have water.  Have you ever been without water?  Do you know how bad it gets when water gets gone?  And they're buying and selling water.  You can't buy and sell water. If you buy and sell water, what's the animals gonna buy water with?  They don't have credit cards and cell phones. So I'm with the animals.  I'm with the bugs, the birds, the bees.  The preacher gets up there and starts preaching about how God is so great, but he don't like bugs and birds, trees and dogs, horses and cows.  Fuck that shit. I like all creatures, except the ones that are destroying everything.

Even your love for creatures, even people?

I love the people that love me and want to save the...

How little the world has become.  And how fast we're using up all the life support systems.  How out-dated laws and ways of mind, thought patterns are, and how the time has become distorted.   And each generation of kids bringing up much, and has pushed the people who are brain dead and stuck, calls up the necessity for a King of America.  The King of America needs to become, because the US is not America. It's out-dated monkeys; money-monkeys. And lies of people who will not face the real of the money is the reasons for distorting and destroying the real. and uses all to cover up the reasons of life with the reasons of money, and the industrial revolutions that started before we were born, destroys the natural environment and overlooks and covers up the real of righteousness.  And the best servant rules the house.  Slaves were running the South when Abraham Lincoln freed no one. And the slaves said to the world, that the South will rise again. And the South will rise again.  Love is the slave mentality in the will of God. Long life to the King of America of Forever.   Myme, hahahaha...

Spring 2011