Charles Manson being interviewed in handcuffs by the BBC in 1991. Manson used this platform to speak to the world, giving more information and insight then was generally common in interviews with media in the United States. The statement found in this interview and transcribed below regarding the Nuremberg trials in which 6000 German soldiers were hanged for obeying orders. Shortly after this interview Manson and others close to him cut off the media, rejecting all requests for interviews. Please listen to 5:44 onward, his words spoken off the cuff ring true to the aware and defiant.
''I want to say this to every man that has a mind,
to all the intelligent life forms that exist on this planet Earth.
I wish really to say this to the Scottish Rites, and the Masons and all the people with minds who have degrees of knowledge and are aware of courts, laws, United Nations, governments.
In the Forties we had a war. And all of our economies went towards this war effort. The war ended, on one level, but we wouldn't let it end on the other levels. We kept buying and selling this war. I'm not locked in a penitentiary for crimes, I'm locked in the Second World War. I'm locked in the Second World War with this decision to bring to the world court, there must be one world court, or we're all going to be devoured by crime. Crime, and the definition of crime, comes from Nuremberg, when the judges decided that they wanted to call Second World War a crime. Honor and war is not a crime. When you go to war and you're a soldier and you fight for your god and your country, that's not criminal. That's honorable. That's what you must do to be a man. If you don't fight for your god and your country, you're not worth anything. If you have no honor, then you're not worth Patty's pig. Truth is, we've got to overturn the decision that you made in the Second World War, or the Second World War will never end. Decrees of the war were written in Switzerland, in Geneva, the conferences that were made, by the men at the tables, clearly stated that anyone in uniform would be given the respect of their rank and their uniforms. Then, when the United States won the war, and got all the Germans in handcuffs, they started breaking their own rules. And they've been breaking their own rules ever since.
War is not a crime. But if you judge war as a crime, from a court room, then turn around. If two and three is five, then three and two is five. If you say war is a crime, then crime becomes your war. I am, by all standards, a prisoner of war. I have been a prisoner of war since 1944, in juvenile hall, for setting the school building on fire in Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been locked up 45 years trying to figure out how I got to be a criminal. It matters not whether I want to be.... You've got to keep criminals going to keep the war going because that's the economy. Your whole economy is based on war. You've got to get your dollar bills off the war, you got to take your silver markets sterling off the war. You've got to take your gold and your diamonds off the war. You've got to overturn that decision that hung six thousand men by the neck. You killed six thousand soldiers for obeying orders. That's wrong, and the world has got to accept they're wrong. If you accept you're wrong, and you say you're sorry for all the things you've done, then I'll be a note in that chord, and maybe we can get some harmony going on this planet earth now.'' - Charles Manson
to all the intelligent life forms that exist on this planet Earth.
I wish really to say this to the Scottish Rites, and the Masons and all the people with minds who have degrees of knowledge and are aware of courts, laws, United Nations, governments.
In the Forties we had a war. And all of our economies went towards this war effort. The war ended, on one level, but we wouldn't let it end on the other levels. We kept buying and selling this war. I'm not locked in a penitentiary for crimes, I'm locked in the Second World War. I'm locked in the Second World War with this decision to bring to the world court, there must be one world court, or we're all going to be devoured by crime. Crime, and the definition of crime, comes from Nuremberg, when the judges decided that they wanted to call Second World War a crime. Honor and war is not a crime. When you go to war and you're a soldier and you fight for your god and your country, that's not criminal. That's honorable. That's what you must do to be a man. If you don't fight for your god and your country, you're not worth anything. If you have no honor, then you're not worth Patty's pig. Truth is, we've got to overturn the decision that you made in the Second World War, or the Second World War will never end. Decrees of the war were written in Switzerland, in Geneva, the conferences that were made, by the men at the tables, clearly stated that anyone in uniform would be given the respect of their rank and their uniforms. Then, when the United States won the war, and got all the Germans in handcuffs, they started breaking their own rules. And they've been breaking their own rules ever since.
War is not a crime. But if you judge war as a crime, from a court room, then turn around. If two and three is five, then three and two is five. If you say war is a crime, then crime becomes your war. I am, by all standards, a prisoner of war. I have been a prisoner of war since 1944, in juvenile hall, for setting the school building on fire in Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been locked up 45 years trying to figure out how I got to be a criminal. It matters not whether I want to be.... You've got to keep criminals going to keep the war going because that's the economy. Your whole economy is based on war. You've got to get your dollar bills off the war, you got to take your silver markets sterling off the war. You've got to take your gold and your diamonds off the war. You've got to overturn that decision that hung six thousand men by the neck. You killed six thousand soldiers for obeying orders. That's wrong, and the world has got to accept they're wrong. If you accept you're wrong, and you say you're sorry for all the things you've done, then I'll be a note in that chord, and maybe we can get some harmony going on this planet earth now.'' - Charles Manson
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| Charles Manson, BBC Interview |
We know in our hearts that it steals nothing from majesty, since that realm is greater than the transient rule of these petty, pitiful, lifeless accusers, but it's the strange, deeply pronounced feeling of being-in-time. Like, if you can't step back from the moment, it's so overwhelming, because we see ourselves in these words here and we see alikin in those shackles if ever there was. We know that we're the world he's communicating to, and not this tomb called society. We feel it, because we are it. It's here and we're there. There is no separation. It's not a new feeling, but it's just so hard to watch him in that kind of situation without tearing up... sensing his determination, in spite of all worldly frustrations... watching how this King can't even sweep his hair out of his eyes,for he sits with his hands chained.
It is impossible not to consider how the average, low-intelligence viewer would interpret it all -- and knowing that this distorted vision is precisely how the crooked media-money-minds intended it. It's like nobility and innocence in a pillory. The nastiest devils sit gawking and throwing stones at harmonic projections of the Absolute. It's hard to watch without a shift in pulse, because in watching, you almost feel like audience to that crime, and we want nothing of it, and we want to intervene directly, and set our lives against that entire current. I can see where the X came from -- and I know why it grew angled rays. - Vitholf
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